Im Nahkampf haben die Makedonen mit ihren bis zu sechs Meter langen Stoßwaffen gegen die handlichen Spanischen Kurzschwerter der Römer keine Chance. The youth would have been taught of Sparta's heroes and he was instructed never to surrender, and never back down from the fight. The Spartans would almost definitely win in a head on clash, the phalanx is just like the spears it is made from, devastatingly powerful head on, but weak when attacked from the side. This does not really mean that the Greek Phalanx was flawed as a fighting system. The Spartan warrior underwent a decade of tests, to ensure that his endurance and character were worthy of his position in the elite of his people's army. Is this surprising? Greek Phalanx vs. Roman Legion: A history of the most powerful military formations in the ancient world . The Deadliest Warrior television programme was an enjoyable and interesting piece of entertainment. Spartan never fought the Roman. Im Folgenden begründet er seine persönlichen Spitzenreiter. BRONZE IS STILL A METAL. Remember the spartan hopolite formation wasn't the same formation that the Macedonians used with their extremely long pikes. I have decided to compare the Spartan warrior against one of Rome's finest Legionnaires. The fight of the phalanx of the Macedonian Greeks (antiquated as it was) vs. the legions of the city of Rome resulted in seven major engagements in which both had three victories and three losses it was the last Hellenistic Macedonian King Perseus at Pydna where the large sarisa's ( spears ) of the Macedonian Phalanx could not maneuver quickly enough to face the fast moving legions. The Legionnaire was covered in a bit more metal but he was afforded some flexibility as the plate mail was slats of steel not a solid mass like a suit of armour. Die dynamische, aggressive und auf Auflösung von Abwehrformationen angelegte Kampftaktik der Legionen, so der Historiker Armin Eich, wird Rom in den folgenden zwei Jahrhunderten die Weltherrschaft sichern. The two terms aren’t exactly comparable. Heck, their women were strong, participating in javelin throwing and discus hurling so as to attract a Spartan male's attention for marriage. The word "laconic" comes from the Spartans (who lived in Laconia), which means pithy and concise. He was either forced into it as he was the second or third son in a poor family. ), Die traditionelle Waffe der Makedonischen Phalanx war ihre bis zu sechs Meter lange Sarisse, Quelle: Wikipedia/F. !!! The Spartans of old existed a few hundred years before the Roman Empire and its mighty Legionnaires had marched their way over a large portion of the civilized world. The Chestplate and helmet were very functional at saving injury. The Ninja of the Far East versus the Greek Spartan Warrior was not a like for like match. The earliest soldiers of the Roman army were hoplites. The Roman legions utilized a more flexible battlefield strategy, with smaller units able to move independently. The Roman strategies were very devious when it comes to flanking. However, Cole is a self-confessed nerd and he has roared. The spear and sarissa was always their primary (as written by Herodotus for example). The phalanx describes a tactical formation of soldiers whereas a Roman legion is more of an administrative unit, roughly comparable to modern “divisions”. See more ideas about ancient warfare, ancient warriors, ancient war. Apr 11, 2019 - Explore Sawyer Swenson's board "Phalanx", followed by 106 people on Pinterest. It was a leaf shaped straight sword which couldn't really reach around a shield. Actually, the Macedonian Army fielded by King Perseus lacked one thing that King Alexander had: Combined Arms Tactics. So by a small amount the Roman soldier should defeat a Spartan Warrior in the field of battle. They knew how to fight, and they had their fair share of outfoxing an enemy army. Their living conditions were very austere, so you'd best bet that the Spartans were as tough as their shields themselves. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while reading Legion versus Phalanx: The Epic Struggle for Infantry Supremacy in the Ancient World. He deduces that the Romans refused to fight the phalanx where the phalanx was effective, Romans offered battle only when a legion could exploit the clumsiness and immobility of a phalanx. The Spartans used their spears as javelins preferring the spear to use bows and arrows, the Spartans thought them cowardly. They threw Javelins as ranged weapons (so if someone says they don't have range, show them this comment). Bronze was still a durable metal. Weitere Informationen: http://epaper.welt.de, Der Kurz-Link dieses Artikels lautet: https://www.welt.de/165797873. Like the Spartans, the Legionnaire would be trained repeatedly in Roman tactics and strategies. People argue that a Xiphos is like a Gladius, but with weaker stabbing power, that's not true. The Roman victory in the Battle of Cynoscephalae ( 197 BC ) marked the end of the Second Macedonian War between Rome and Philip V, king of Macedon.The battle is considered one of the best examples of manipular Roman legion superiority over the Macedonian phalanx … Cavalrymen went into battle with their torso's bare. The Spartan tactics were outdated pretty quickly because I think the thracians kicked their asses after the wars between Athens and Sparta. The Spartans trained and fought all their life with ONLY these weapons. This is a one on one fight, there is no phalanx as far as I'm concerned. Legion versus Phalanx: The Epic Struggle for Infantry Supremacy in the Ancient World | Cole, Myke | ISBN: 9781472828422 | Kostenloser Versand für alle Bücher mit Versand und Verkauf duch Amazon. Swords: Both sets of warriors used a short sword as their primary weapon in one on one contest. Greek Hopolites already fought against the Roman Legion, and the Greeks lost very horribly. He would have survived in the wilderness and would have killed a member of the Messenian helot slave class. Inkompetente Führung lässt den römischen Vorstoß aber zunächst scheitern. The phalanx was best suited for level ground and was vulnerable to loss of cohesion, whereas the legion based on interlocking smaller units was much more adept at holding and reforming formation. Many people see this as a huge disadvantage, even for a one on one fight, but i see this a huge ADVANTAGE, ESPECIALLY for a one on one fight. In a one on one fight, a Spartan would kill a Legionnaire easily. And at the beginning of the battle, the Macedonian Phalanx did succeed in pushing back the Roman Legions, but without good … To start the game, I’d like to throw in a battle fought during the first Punic War, the battle of Tunis saw a Spartan Officer called Xanthippus throw a line of elephants, supported by the old phalanx of “doru” wielding Carthaginian levies at the Roman legions and with cavalry superiority on the flanks he won a decisive victory. Also covering from torso to knee when semi0crouched for a phalanx(pay attention to that coverage, that'll be important later). The Romans had spears but their fighting style was to use it more as a defensive or close quarter combat deterrent. Legion versus Phalanx: The Epic Struggle for Infantry Supremacy in the Ancient World - Kindle edition by Cole, Myke. In a kind of homage to the television series. In drei Kriegen kämpfte Rom gegen das Königreich Makedonien. Our last article about who would win in a battle between a Roman Legion and a Greek Phalanx has been such a success that we’ve decided to continue the series. In diese stoßen die Legionäre vor und greifen die Makedonen von der Seite und dem Rücken aus an. With that being said, I implore everyone to stop talking about the military tactics employed by each anctient nation's armies, it does not matter!!! He would then be brutalized by his peers and turned into a Spartan warrior through years of exhaustive training. Their Dory spear was very versatile, acting as a CQC deterrent, with a weighted ball at the butt end of the spear that acted as a leveling unit when holding it up. No light Spartan. EG the Rajhput somehow defeating the Romans when in fact the Romans do not fight this way, therefore armies must be compared at which point the Romans overwhelmingly dominate the field...So when comparing two warriors especially as a Spartan or Roman with the heavy infantry lockstep style, one must compare armies as a whole rather than simple individuals. Perseus kann zunächst fliehen, ergibt sich aber schließlich dem römischen Feldherrn und stirbt in Gefangenschaft. Think about it, aside from grueling training and combat experience, these guys used the same loadout for every fight. When the phalanx got disrupted or broken up, the individual soldiers had to fight one- on - one. So let's take a look at their skills shall we? I find major flaws in everyone's reasoning. Weapons and armor where given by retired soldier so only soldiers from a rich family would be using one. The weak points on the legionnaire were at the joints. There is no doubt in my mind that Roman legions would completely obliterate the Spartans. By the time the young Spartan has reached the age of eighteen, he had learned to fight, to win and to die honourably like a true Spartan. The spartans were originally thought to be around 5'10" to 5'11" through rough estimates from ancient equipment. No different weapons for diferent classes. The only gripe I had with the programme was that the actual contestants they matched them up against were ill-suited. Just going to address some errors. Beide Heere sind mit rund 40.000 Mann ungefähr gleich stark. It was the phalanx that allowed Greece to become the dominant power in the Western world. The two armies lined up, each splitting the cavalry on the wings and the Macedonian phalanx advanced. This weapon was seen as the quintessential "bad guys" weapon in ancient Greece. The Greek xiphos was never a primary weapon as it would take away the advantage of the phalanx. Selbst als mit Aemilius Paullus ein erfahrener Feldherr die Führung der Legionen übernimmt, kann Perseus mit seiner reorganisierten Armee erfolgreich Widerstand leisten. No variations for Spartans. The Roman is using technology more advanced than the Spartan so that alone should swing it. The Legionnaire joined the Roman army in several different ways. Bei Pydna trafen die beweglichen römischen Manipel auf die starre Front der Makedonischen Phalanx, Münze des Königs Perseus von Makedonien (213/212-165 v. Makedonische Krieg zu Ende und das Stammland Alexanders des Großen vernichtet. Der römische Konsul Lucius Aemilius Paullus besiegt am 22. The Romans fought in the same way as the Spartans, as they both worked as a single force to crush their enemies. Nerd isn’t the name one would generally associate with Myke Cole & from the picture on the back flap of Legion versus Phalanx, as a stranger you’d certainly think twice about calling any name he didn’t OK to his face. 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